blendmodes gone?

[Peter Wassink]

i opened a project in A4 dimensions and somehow the blendmodes are not there?

[Xavier]

This is the 'display current layer' mode.
Click on menu Layer > show all layers

[Peter Wassink]

look again Xavier...
the blendmodes are not there... in the interface

[D.T. Nethery]

i opened a project in A4 dimensions and somehow the blendmodes are not there?

Very strange. Is this an A4 Illustration project that was created in an older version of TVPaint 11 and then you opened it in 11.5 , but now the blendmodes are gone , or is it a new A4 Illustration project created in 11.5 ? I tried to reproduce the issue on my end , but when I create a new A4 project in TVPaint 11.5 the blend modes are available as normal. I'm on Mac OS , TVPaint 11.5 (Nov. 23, 2020).

This is the 'display current layer' mode.
Click on menu Layer > show all layers

Xavier is correct. If it is switched to Display Current layer mode you won't see the blend modes menu .

See screen shots. First screen shot shows normal , Display All Layers, with blend modes menu . Second screen shot shows it with Display Current . Display Current has no blend modes menu showing. (third screen shot shows TVPaint 11)

However , it must be pointed out that this is NEW in 11.5 . Previously in version 11 choosing Display Current still had the blend modes menu visible. I don't know why this was changed (and if only TVPaint developers know it was changed then it will be a source of confusion to many users ! ) Xavier, what was the reason for changing this ?

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This is TVPaint 11 - when the Display Current layer is selected the blend modes menu is still available.

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[Xavier]

Well, I am responsible for that ... maybe I went to far on this one

The change is related to this request from Peter : https://forum.tvpaint.fr/viewtopic.php? ... 6c#p121129

When i view a layer with a blendmode (other then color) in 'display current layer' i see the full RGB value of the layers pixels.
this is normal and desired.
When i then want to export a frame or sequence from this layer i get an empty result.
As if TVPaint suddenly decides it needs to stick to the blendmode.
only after i switch the belndmode back to normal can i export.

When exporting in 'display current layer'-mode tvpaint should always use blendmode color.

When you're in "display current layer" mode, whatever the blending mode you choose the export (and thus, the preview) shall remain in color mode. So what's the less confusing ?
1) being able to change the blending mode without seeing the result
2) or disabling the blending mode as long as you're in "display current layer" mode ?

I thought that the option 2 was the most easy to figure out, and apparently I was wrong. Would it be better if I gray out the blending mode, with a specific hint like for the bottommost layer ?

[Peter Wassink]

Would it be better if I gray out the blending mode, with a specific hint like for the bottommost layer ?

yes!

Even when the blendmodes are not active, the moment the layer is on 'display current' or at the bottom of the layer stack,
as a user you still need to see what blendmode the layer is in!
otherwise it can get very confusing in my opinion

[Xavier]

Ok, it's done. I'll publish the build in a couple of hours.

[Xavier]

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