Help me understand selecting multiple layers

[Joost]

Hi there,

In TVP 11.5.1 I don't really understand how to select multiple layers using the SHIFT key on my keyboard.

In tvpaint 10 I used to click in the layer thumbnail then hold shift, then select a different layer: All layers in-between the two selected layers where selected.

But in TVP 11.5.1 it's not clear when all layers in-between are selected and when just the two layers that I clicked on are selected. It feels random to me.
Sometimes TVPaint selects only the two selected layers and sometimes all layers in-between. Even when I think I do exactly the same, the behaviour seems to be always different.

Is there anybody who can explain what I'm missing?


Thanks!

[D.T. Nethery]

Selecting multiple layers holding down the Shift key works the same in TVPaint 11. Most of the time I have no problem with selecting multiple layers in the usual way you described: "click in the layer thumbnail then hold shift, then select a different layer: All layers in-between the two selected layers where selected." but I do notice that occasionally there will be a slight delay before all the layers show as selected with the highlighting... sometimes the layers don't show as selected until I move the cursor up or down slightly , then the highlighting shows they are selected. This behavior is difficult to describe or predict. In the attached screen capture , you can see me selecting multiple layers by holding down Shift ... you can see it happens a few times there is a slight lag before all the layers have the highlighting which shows they are selected . I have no idea why it does this from time to time. It doesn't always happen. Seems random. It hasn't bothered me enough to report it as a bug , but I suppose it is a bug (?). As I say, usually when it happens if I just move my cursor up or down a bit the highlighting kicks in , so I can see all the layers selected.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mnZs569Qb0



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[Joost]

Oh, now I see. Yes it's a delay indeed!

Maybe I was too impatient and just tried selecting them again when I should have waited.
Thanks for pointing that out!


The delay however is still a bit strange...

[Joost]

Well, after some more experience. Selecting layers is still a bit more difficult than it used to be.

It's not just a delay. Sometimes TVPaint simply doesn't select the layers I want. I have to select the layers multiple times to get the right selection.


And another thing that is really strange behaviour to me:
When I did manage to select the layers, and I zoom out, the selected layers are automatically deselected. This must be a bug, right?

Hopefully the TVPaint team can take a look at this one.
Thanks in advance!

[Soom]

I actually remember this issue was a problem also in some previous versions

[Thierry]

And another thing that is really strange behaviour to me:
When I did manage to select the layers, and I zoom out, the selected layers are automatically deselected. This must be a bug, right?

Hopefully the TVPaint team can take a look at this one.
Thanks in advance!

I've tried to reproduce that one, but it doesn't seem I have the bug you're describing.
See the attached video of me trying to do it:

selecting-zooming-out.zip

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--TVPaint 11.5.1 (March 15th build)

[Soom]

I have it (on Windows, will check on Mac later)
Here is the recording...

tvp_layer_selection.mov

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(there is no sound, so just to clarify - each time I press Shift and select some other layer. Sometimes the layers in between get selected, sometimes not. It's random. Sometimes if i move or zoom the timeline (not the canvas, like you do in your video), they suddenly get selected (I think this is also what Joost meant too)

[Joost]

And another thing that is really strange behaviour to me:
When I did manage to select the layers, and I zoom out, the selected layers are automatically deselected. This must be a bug, right?

Hopefully the TVPaint team can take a look at this one.
Thanks in advance!

I've tried to reproduce that one, but it doesn't seem I have the bug you're describing.
See the attached video of me trying to do it:selecting-zooming-out.zip

--TVPaint 11.5.1 (March 15th build)

Thanks for your reply Thierry.
I didn't make myself clear enough. I forgot to type: Zoom out "on the timeline" (alt-right mouse button)
So if I have multiple layers selected, and then I want to zoom out on the timeline, the selected layers will be deselected...

[Joost]

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Thanks for your reply Thierry.
I didn't make myself clear enough. I forgot to type: Zoom out "on the timeline" (alt-right mouse button)
So if I have multiple layers selected, and then I want to zoom out on the timeline, the selected layers will be deselected...
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Apparently, this deselecting "bug" is not showing up in every project I open. But I don't know when and why it's not appearing sometimes.
It definitely shows up when opening a new project.

[D.T. Nethery]

Apparently, this deselecting "bug" is not showing up in every project I open. But I don't know when and why it's not appearing sometimes.
It definitely shows up when opening a new project.

It is the same for me: it sometimes happens , but not all the time. I tried to capture the behavior (layers deselected when expanding or compacting the timeline) with a screen capture video , but when I had the screen capture running I could not reproduce the behavior. It doesn't happen so much that it is bothersome (to me) , so I've learned to live with it. I imagine it could be quite annoying to many people , so I hope they can find out what causes the problem and are able to fix it.