Is it just me or...?

[artfx]

When I am working on a project, I tend to do my audio and sound editing in Garage Band or iMovie. When I do demonstrations, however, I often do all my audio, using multiple tracks, right in TVP. If I have more than one clip in the project, I put the music on the master tracks in the main project view. This started me wondering, why not do this more often?

Is it just me, or is there some reason not to do all the audio for a project right inside TVP?

[slowtiger]

Not enough mixing and filter facilities. I use those a lot, that's why I do my audio in FinalCut or right in Logic when composing directly to a film.

[Paul Fierlinger]

Same here -- I use Vegas for mixing and bring the track into TVP to create an animatic. Once the film is set to animate, I split the animatic into clips and export those as AVIs back into Vegas, where I fine edit them and then render .wav copies for each clip to bring those back into TVP so that each clip now has its own sound track. There I begin to add my sound FX tracks and move them around as my animation will often change its timing... basically, I draw in TVP and assemble the film in Vegas. I also use Vegas as my screening room because I have a large, high quality monitor specifically setup for screenings and there I can see what I've really wrought, which takes me back to improve my work in TVP. I rough cut both picture and sound in TVP and fine tune both in Vegas.

[Mads Juul]

Yes why not? If you can. I do most of mine.
But Of course there is a lot of limitations compared to other "real" NLE's as mentioned above.
I hope TVP in the future will support and improve the audio handling in TVP. it is an important piece of my work flow.
Improvements could be more than one sound edit pr track. possible to speed up slow down a sound edit. to gain the sound.
and more
-Mads

[artfx]

Great points everyone. I often have a lot of filters that I run on sound tracks (reverb, equalizer etc.) that I have preset to load in Garage Band. I forgot about that. I agree, though, with just a few additions more sound work could be done in TVP, especially sound FX which often need a slide here and there as animation timing changes.

[slowtiger]

Maybe I'm just used to send files back and forth between programs, but I really prefer to do each job with the application which is best in it (or which I'm fastest in using...)

Thing is, sound editing is a completely different piece of cake, so I would be quite suspicious if TVP one day would claim to have a full sound editor inside. And even if it worked, it would only do so for smaller parts (or projects), not for whole films.

AFAIK even big production systems don't have that functionality. What they have, and what is their biggest selling point, is their version control system, completely with hot-linking everything complete with last changes. (Interesting bit: Anime Studio just introduced this, with automatically checking each linked image file and re-loading a newer version.)

In an ideal world, all software would share the same API, so if I need sound editing facilities, I could just load that module and it would be integrated seamlessly into TVP ... same would work for other jobs, like editing etc. Each functional cluster would have its own module, which are only loaded when needed. Oh well. I can dream, could I?