About Wacom Intuos eraser tool

[Zetariver]

Hello. I am using Wacom Intuos3 and assign eraser tool(not TVPaint eraser tool but wacom's eraser tool) to side switch of the pen in wacom utility tool.
And every time I start TVPaint and change the current tool to stroke tool and push the side switch, current tool is changed to a pen brush whose setting is

mode erase
size 5 pressure on
power 100 pressure on
opacity 100
Drying option off
Gradient off
AAlising on

I want to use it just like a normal eraser stroke tool, so I read manual and it won't tell me what this strange eraser tool is, although it recommends me to use wacom pen tablet.
In photoshop this wacom eraser tool is photoshop's eraser tool and I can change the setting, but TVPaint has no "eraser tool".

So my question. what is this tool? Where is this pen setting?

[Paul Fierlinger]

This is another one of my big problems I have with Wacom. I too use the side switch to function as an eraser and have to keep tooling around with Wacom. First of all, make sure Wacom is reading your TVP entry (make sure TVP is highlighted) and not All Other. Then go to TVP's Congig Keyboard Shortcuts Panel and enter Erase and look under Tool Bin to see if the eraser is assigned to a key already -- if not, pick one. Now if even this won't work, select other eraser possibilities in Wacom such Right Click or Keystroke. Maybe you've already gone through all this and have had no luck. Then welcome to the club of Wacom Software Haters and keep experimenting until you have luck. I mean real luck, because after you have given up, one day, perhaps after a system reboot or whatever, it will work just the way you expected of it -- until some other crash or reboot or install of another software will throw eraser off again.

[Léo]

Hello Zetariver,

As you wrote, TVPaint has no "eraser tool", because all your brushes can be transformed as an eraser tool.
You have just to choose which drawing mode you want to use (Color, Behind, Erase, ...):

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In fact, each side of your stylus can be customized with its own tool and settings.
For example you have the possibility to draw with the pen brush in "color mode" and erase with the air brush in "eraser mode", simply by switching the tip of your stylus.
To do so you have just to switch each tip of the stylus and select the settings you want.

#Paul: I think that Zetariver didn't talk about the Wacom issues, it's more a problem about the software use

[Zetariver]

Thank you Paul, but my eraser works fine and I officially joined in that Wacom Software Haters Club already just when I started using their lovely high-price cutting-edge but state-of-the-art-unstable flimsy pen tablet

In my case, side switch works fine, but I want to know where is the eraser setting. If I use stroke tool with penbrush combination, I know where penbrush is, it's inside Tool panel. I just click this icon and change its parameter.

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But, I can't find wacom's eraser tool in TVPaint. I mean this eraser tool.

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If I use this eraser tool in TVPaint, my current tool is changed to that strange eraser tool with the forementioned tool setting. I can never find where this eraser tool is in TVPaint. What is this eraser tool? In addition to that, If I keep pushing side switch of pen tablet to activate this strange eraser tool, I can't change its parameter using keyboard and I can't touch options like Drying,Gradient and AAliasing option. Really frustrating.

[Fabrice]

I can never find where this eraser tool is in TVPaint. What is this eraser tool?

Hmmm ... did you read Léo's answer ?

[Zetariver]

Fabrice, not yet. And I've read it.

And thank you Léo for your reply.
So, it means if I push the side switch that is assigned with eraser tool in Wacom property, Stylus tip is changed to other stylus?
Something like if I draw without pushing side switch, it's normal stylus, and If I keep pushing side switch, it's another stylus, right?
So, it means there is no strange eraser tool in TVPaint? It's just something waiting for me to change it to other tools?
I don't need to use it as eraser tool, because it can be used as other tools just like normal stylus?

[Fabrice]

There is no need to assign an eraser tool in the Wacom drivers.

Everything could be done in TVPaint directly by settings the right tools drawing mode (color or erase).

[Zetariver]

There is no need to assign an eraser tool in the Wacom drivers.

Everything could be done in TVPaint directly by settings the right tools drawing mode (color or erase).

Really? But I am using 2nd side switch with keystroke Ctrl+Z to do undoing, and it does send keystroke Ctrl+Z.
I can't understand. Eraser setting in Wacom properties is ignored and replaced with something else by TVPaint?

[Paul Fierlinger]

I have designated my oil brush tool as an eraser, since I have no other use for that tool, and made an eraser custom Panel with several eraser styles (soft, hard, large, medium, small)all made with various settings of the oil brush.

I also use Swap Stylus, which I assigned to a key. In Wacom I use right click (or application defined -- they both behave the same way) which erases only one way: the size of my drawing tool.

This way I use my side switch for the smallest erase corrections and with my swap key I toggle between eraser and pen, eraser being whichever of my collection I happen to be using at the moment -- usually my medium size one.

This way I have at my right hand (my drawing hand) a thin eraser at my finger tip (I draw thin lines) and at the finger tip of mu left hand I have my larger eraser.

I also have my swap tool assigned to a button on my Wacom tablet, so I draw always with my left finger hovering over my swap tool and my right finger on my pen, ready to press on its side switch.

[Léo]

Eraser setting in Wacom properties is ignored and replaced with something else by TVPaint?

The Eraser Setting in Wacom properties should stay as it is by default.
There is no need to change or move it elsewhere or it would create conflicts, due to the Wacom drivers bad quality.

If you want to set your Eraser in TVPaint, you have to follow the instructions I posted earlier.

[Zetariver]

Thank you　Paul. I appreciate your advice.

And Léo, you said stylus,it means TVPaint tools like pen brush,mechanical pencil or eraser in default tool bin? I know I can make custom brushes. I will make my custom eraser tool If I need to and I already use my custom brushes,but I didn't talk about it.
I am talking about the situation, when I am pushing side switch to activate Wacom's eraser,current tool is changed to an eraser tool, and I try to erase using it , but It can't erase all because drying option is off and I can not change it, but I want to change its parameters.
This Wacom's eraser switcher is useful because If I need to use eraser temporarily I only need to keep pushing side switch.
And if I stop pushing it, current tool goes back to last used tool immediately. I don't need to push keyboard shortcut keys many times to do this.
It's something like I draw having both pen and eraser.This function is vital for me.
You mean I should stop using it?

I always push side switch to activate eraser tool in Photoshop.This eraser tool.

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And If I push side switch to activate eraser(Wacom's eraser) temporarily in Photoshop, current tool is changed to this eraser tool.I can change its parameters like drawing mode, opacity, flow, brush, pencil, block etc.
But in TVPaint, if I push side switch to activate this eraser tool temporarily, there is no eraser tool like Photoshop's. It's the eraser tool I mentioned in my 1st post.

[Fabrice]

Something you could do is :
1) assigning a key to a pen tool in "color mode",
2) assigning an other key to an other tool in "erase mode".

Then in the Wacom preferences panel, you can assign those 2 shortcuts to the 2 side buttons of the stylus, so you can switch easily between your tool and the eraser.


nb : In the default config, the side button is linked to the right click, which allows to erase the last stroke.

[Zetariver]

Thank you Fabrice.
I tried similar approach few years ago in other application, but it means I lose undo button.
I need eraser and undo function on wacom pen. I think you know TVPaint better than me of course,
And you said so, it seems I need to forget about wacom eraser, which is completely useless unless I can change its parameters.

[Soom]

The way TVPaint works is just a bit different from Photoshop. There is no specific eraser tool. Any tool can be an Eraser with the "erase" mode on.
But the side switch which you are using as eraser, by default, is the right click, and I would suggest you leave it this way. It's really convenient when you need to quickly erase last stroke, or, with drying option on, erase anything using the same brush you are currently drawing with. Personally I find it extremely superior over Photoshop. Though together with that, I still do use the Wacom's pen eraser tip (the other end) for an additional custom erase tool. You can assign it by clicking any eraser brush with it - it will remember it until you quit TVPaint. You can use the default preset erasers, or create your own.

[D.T. Nethery]

But the side switch which you are using as eraser, by default, is the right click, and I would suggest you leave it this way. It's really convenient when you need to quickly erase last stroke

I have a question about the pen button as Right Click for erase . Most of the time I use the 'eraser end' of the Wacom pen to erase . I have read about using the pen button on the Wacom stylus (set to Right Click) to erase , but I've never used it like that (because I have my Wacom pen buttons set to other functions). (*NOTE: I can't find anything in the user manual about using Right Click to Erase last stroke and it's not listed in the Key Shortcuts commands for erasing. So I'm just curious: how does anyone ever know how to use Right Click button to erase if they don't read about it here on the user forum ? )


Currently, I do not have access to my Wacom Cintiq , so I am using a MonoPrice Pen Tablet , which works fine for the most part , but it does not have an "eraser end' on the pen , so I want to use the Right Click button on the Monoprice stylus for erase .

Here is the problem: the Right Click button to erase only works with SOME tools in TVPaint , but not all tools . Is this normal ? For example, there are certain custom brushes , such as "Chinese Brushes" and all the brushes from Creation Pack , and a few others , where pushing the Right Click button on the Monoprice pen enables me to erase the last stroke as expected. But with many of the other tools , including the basic set of pencils in the Tool Bin and the default Sketch Panel, the Right Click to erase does not work. Why would the Right Click button to erase work with some tools , but not will all tools in TVPaint ?

Has anyone else experienced this issue with the Right Click button on the pen NOT working as an eraser with certain tools in TVPaint when using the Monoprice pen (or with Wacom pen ) ?




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