Saving and other processes take a lot of time...
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I think 2 min for nearly 2 GB are reasonable. After all just copying such a file on system level takes quite long (although not that long).
But you're right, it doesn't make any sense.
But you're right, it doesn't make any sense.
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TVP 11.7 Mac Mini M2pro 32GB OS 13.5
TVP 11.0 and 11.7 MacPro 12core 3GHz 32GB OS 10.11 Quicktime 10.7.3
TVP 11.7 Mac Mini M2pro 32GB OS 13.5
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just enter your codes here : http://www.tvpaint.com/v2/content/artic ... pdate.php/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and select 64 bits Mac version.SusannH wrote:Ah, whoops, I didn't know there was already a 10.5.5. I'm downloading it right now
But, ehm...how do I get/change it to/... the 64 bit version? x)
Fabrice Debarge
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Thanks! Okay, so now I'm working with TVP 10.5.5 64 bits, but it didn't change anything. I drew just 3 more frames, saved it, it still takes 1:51 min to save the 1,77GB file. Then I opened the big file (5,42GB) again, made some changes, and saved it, and it takes 2:09 min now - at least it makes more sense now that it takes longer. OH! But I'm just noticing, the once 5,42GB are now 1,77GB as well o_O TVP works in mysterious ways... So basically it's smaller but takes twice the time to save as yesterday. Sounds logical.
I'm just afraid I keep doing something terribly wrong which causes this.
Well... I just hope it'll be fine once I split the project.
I'm just afraid I keep doing something terribly wrong which causes this.
Well... I just hope it'll be fine once I split the project.
Re: Saving and other processes take a lot of time...
Nothing magical, just the excellent work of our developersSusannH wrote:OH! But I'm just noticing, the once 5,42GB are now 1,77GB as well o_O TVP works in mysterious ways... So basically it's smaller but takes twice the time to save as yesterday. Sounds logical.
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Yeeeeah, I don't mean to offend but well...I'd rather have it take up more space and saving faster
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no problem, computers tends to be faster and fster, so we focus on the size.SusannH wrote:Yeeeeah, I don't mean to offend but well...I'd rather have it take up more space and saving faster
Fabrice Debarge
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The compression does not help you to save time , just to save place ^^
Do you have other programs working at the same time ? Skype, Photoshop, Flash or something ?
Do you have other programs working at the same time ? Skype, Photoshop, Flash or something ?
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Nothing but Firefox and iTunes The thing is, since my update yesterday (RAM+SSD) everything else goes SUPERfast, working with AfterEffects is SO MUCH faster now, programs start faster - it's just TVP that seems not to care about the hardware upgrades.
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Can I ask just out of curiosity, you open up a 5GB file in After Effects and it only takes seconds but TVpaint takes minutes? (How big is your After Effects file?)
I actually had always the opposite experience. Photoshop would take minutes to open up a 500mb file while TVpaint took seconds.
I actually had always the opposite experience. Photoshop would take minutes to open up a 500mb file while TVpaint took seconds.
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Re: Saving and other processes take a lot of time...
About updating your TVP: If you use "Check for updates" within the Help tab, you will be automatically connected to exactly the place you need to be to do this; just don't forget to close TVP before you install the update.
Sorry, the other question I can't help you with.
Sorry, the other question I can't help you with.
Paul
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http://www.slocumfilm.com
Desktop PC Win10-Pro -64 bit OS; 32.0 GB RAM
Processor: i7-2600 CPU@3.40GHz
AMD FirePro V7900; Intuos4 Wacom tablet
Re: Saving and other processes take a lot of time...
furushil: Nah, I can't really compare the two, I don't exactly have a big AE file. I just noticed that in general, it opens much more quickly and also rendering goes much faster... But my AE files aren't that big. For one small video/animation of 1:15 min, the file is about 300KB, which of course takes nothing to load and save. (For example, rendering said film in best quality took 2 min and the file is 6GB. Saving the TVP project takes 2:09 min for 1,77GB...)
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I think this all is perfectly normal.
I just created a 1920x1080px file with 4000 frames (one layer) and saved it. It took 2 minutes to save it. The file is 3,5GB now. My CPU worked at 6-10% for that and then after the save it rendered the scene at 50-60%.
So, probably not even a stronger CPU would help (but I am not an expert).
I am pretty sure if you open up a 5GB file in Photoshop it would take "days".
I just created a 1920x1080px file with 4000 frames (one layer) and saved it. It took 2 minutes to save it. The file is 3,5GB now. My CPU worked at 6-10% for that and then after the save it rendered the scene at 50-60%.
So, probably not even a stronger CPU would help (but I am not an expert).
I am pretty sure if you open up a 5GB file in Photoshop it would take "days".
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Okay, thanks! Then I'll soon split the project up in several parts and see if it works fine like that.
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I just tortured my computer for fun and created a 1920x1080px (72dpi) file in Photoshop. Then I smeared some brush strokes on the canvas and copied the layer 2500 times ( so almost half the frames as in the TVPaint test).
Both programs are similar, because you draw with pixels.
Then I hit save and it took 3:18 minutes to save. But after it was done saving, it didn't actually save but told me this: Basically the file could not be saved because it is larger then 2GB.
After Effects is fast because it just loads in already existing footage.
I think also that rendering out a scene is different than saving a project, because after you render something you cannot manipulate the pixels anymore.
(Yes, I have nothing to do right now )
Both programs are similar, because you draw with pixels.
Then I hit save and it took 3:18 minutes to save. But after it was done saving, it didn't actually save but told me this: Basically the file could not be saved because it is larger then 2GB.
After Effects is fast because it just loads in already existing footage.
I think also that rendering out a scene is different than saving a project, because after you render something you cannot manipulate the pixels anymore.
(Yes, I have nothing to do right now )
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Re: Saving and other processes take a lot of time...
(Yes, I have nothing to do right now )
thanks for the comparison. it's always good to know
Fabrice Debarge