holding a frame

oliveuk · Post by **oliveuk** » 02 Feb 2007, 22:01

I have been put off by few products in the past because of the way they hold frames.

On few of them and unlike the way Flash works, you have to duplicate the frame you want to hold, but when you make a change on the original you need to manually delete all the held ones and duplicate the new original again.

So far it looks like TVpaint works the same way. Am I wrong here?

TVPaint Pro offers an Xsheet that looks pretty complicated to me. So what is the best way to hold frames?

Olive

fabrice_ · Post by **fabrice_** » 03 Feb 2007, 08:56

Hi Oliveuk and welcome in this forum.

I think this could help you :

user-manual lesson 8 wrote:The main advantage of the XSheet layer is that a frame that is used multiple times in a scene need only to be adjusted or colored once and all instances of this image in the XSheet layer will change accordingly.
It use to save a lot of time since the process of copying and editing frames is much simpler and easier to control through the XSheet panel. (This is much simpler than the old way in which you'd have to manually copy and paste frames in the layers of the timeline.)

So, here is a very basic example of project using the XSheet.
Load it in TVPaint Animation Pro. The source layers are in blue, the XSheet layers are in red.
Then switch to the XSheet tab : the source layers are on the right and the XSheet layers are on the left.

Feel free to ask any question.

oliveuk · Post by **oliveuk** » 23 Feb 2007, 14:41

ok, thanks Fabrice for the infos about the Xsheet.

One big issue though. there is a 600 euros difference between Tvpaint8 and TVpaint 8.1.

I am a CG animator student from Animation Mentor.com and the only reason I, and the other students, would use TVpaint for at the moment is to do our layout and animatic.

Basically we would use TVpaint as a storyboard/animatic software.

At school we have a very big discount on PAP but the interface is so cluncky that most of us don't even want to use it.

Lately I tried the demo version of TVpaint pro but was soooo put off by the Xsheet that I eventually used free Ink Art to draw my boards and Monkey Jam to time them out on my sound track.

They used to be a plugin for Mirage called Boardomatic. I haven't used it so I don't know exactly what it does but I have the feeling that this would be ideal for me if I can't do animatics with TVpaint 8.0. Does Boardomatic still exist?

Traditional animators are used to Xsheet but for new animators, a timeline like the Flash one seem much better.

Olivier

malcooning · Post by **malcooning** » 23 Feb 2007, 18:34

how about creating image layers, and using them to hold frames? this will keep the file size small, and you'll have control over shifting and stretching the held portion.

ZigOtto · Post by **ZigOtto** » 23 Feb 2007, 19:12

... or just wait for the coming next release!

Peter Wassink · Post by **Peter Wassink** » 23 Feb 2007, 19:21

it is so cool!

fanany · Post by **fanany** » 01 Mar 2007, 00:05

oh! a "next release"? where? when?
what name? v8.1.2? v8.2?
... will it be a free upgrade?
... how many days/weeks we will have to wait?

I know someones here and there
who would be glad to know more on this subject!

Post by **TVPaint** » 01 Mar 2007, 09:44

You're absolutely right Fanany !

A free update is planned to be realeased for both TVP Animation and TVP Animation PRO.

It will include various improvements and new features, some bug fixes and our valorous beta-testers are actually busy with it.

We can't announce any date, neither a list of what has been made yet but be sure that the animators should be (more) happy with this upcoming update !

malcooning · Post by **malcooning** » 01 Mar 2007, 22:25

Fanany,
maybe I'm mistaken, but we haven't seen you here for a while.
where have thou been?

a.

fanany · Post by **fanany** » 02 Mar 2007, 00:20

malcooning wrote:Fanany,
maybe I'm mistaken, but we haven't seen you here for a while.
where have thou been?

a.

hi Asaf,
I would say only half-mistaken ... a bit busy these last times,
although not so far, really not so far, believe me!...