Best Practice for long clip

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Best Practice for long clip

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I'm still new and experimenting, but I'm getting to the end of my current project, which uses a music clip from start to end -- 3:15 all up. The visuals a photographic slides.

What's the best practice for managing something like this? From reading on the forum (for more normal animation projects), it seems having everything in a single file is not what is best, but I wasn't sure how to 'cut' the audio into different clips or projects and then how to animate them back together again without the audio being or seeming cut and joined.

Currently I've just got a single Project and one clip and am not experiencing any machine issues, but it is starting to take some time to load and save.

Thanks. Happy to have pointers to words to read up on...
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If your whole film consists of just some images sliding in and out, it may work fine to have 3 minutes in one file.

The usual way is to do smaller segments, render them out, and assemble the animation in a video edit software. That's also the place where you combine video with the final audio since you have much more control in that software.

I'm tempted to say that TVP is a bit over-qualified for this kind of project - if you really just slide images in and out, you could do this in a plethora of softwares, including most video editors, Anime Studio, and even Powerpoint ...
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Did I say "just slide in and out"? It's a bit more than that, and I could have used something else (and have done in the past), but it's a TVP learning experience too :D

Ah, I was thinking the final render was with the audio: shows you how much I know :(

I'm actually up to 160 odd images atm, and having lots of fun... and enjoying the fine control that TVP is giving me.
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In that case I recommend you split up your project into manageable parts. TVP can perfectly handle a 10 GB file, but it gets tedious to open and save. Project files up to 250 MB are perfect.
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scribbly wrote: Ah, I was thinking the final render was with the audio: shows you how much I know :(
Of course the final render is with Audio, but usually audio is not edited in TVPaint - it's there for reference. But the main question is - what TVPaint version are you using? Pro version has most necessary audio tools to edit the sound and do everything in TVPaint without using any other software. If you are using the Standard, then it's easier to compose the final render in another software. But if you plan to split the file into parts, then you will have to compose the final render in some editing software - it's just easier.
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Maybe i can be usefull for you too so i just put it here, it's a way to do some editing in tvpaint with multiple manageable files :

http://forum.tvpaint.com/viewtopic.php? ... 836#p75836" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Try to import your pictures without using the "preload" option at the top of your import menu. But be sure to begin your timeline with an unused frame and set the mark in point at image 2, because there is a bug and the first image isn't updated correctly. So you just have to skip it and it's ok :)
And to update your frames you have to refresh the proxy (when you flip/scrub it's always updated because it diretly reads the file, no need to relaunch your project, but when you hit play the images are still the same as calculated before). Just create a new layer with invisible frames on top of it and hit play, it should refresh properly. And you just have to desactivate it when needed so tvpaint will again refresh your pictures.

I made a little panel to help me. So i don't have to do all this things manually (one button for importing on frame 2+refresh layer and one for refreshing every clip), it's usefull cause i can now do editing with tvpaint. And when i have camera movements on hi-res images it is really slow but if i export the frames and just read it frame by frame it's really smooth. So with it i can split my project in multiple files for each shot and i can have an updated main project for reading and editing.

So i can skip adobe premiere and i'm really happy to do it...
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