How to Shift-Stroke?

[codywalzel]

Hello,
Windows 7,
64 bit
TVPaint 10 Professional

I've been setting up preferences and reading the manual and have found just about everything I need to get started, but there is just one more thing I could really use. There is a function in Photoshop that I'd love to know how to replicate.

I know holding shift allows a user to draw perfectly straight horizontal and vertical lines in both programs, and a perfect 45 degree in TVP, but in Photoshop you can also: place a mark -hold shift- and place another mark, to draw a perfectly straight diagonal line of your choice. This can be achieved with any custom tool preset or brush that has the 'shape dynamics' field unchecked. I know in TVP this can be done using the line tool, but I'd like to be able to do this using the edge qualities of certain brushes.

[Sewie]

Yes, I have been looking a feature like this as well. It'd be very useful for quick sketching assignments but I haven't found a way to do these lines properly in TVPaint.
To give an example: there might be assignments where lines like those in the background of the storyboard below (verticals, horizontals and diagonals of varying angles) are wished for by the client:


(The image was made by Emanuel Wiemans, btw.)

In photoshop it's a piece of cake and I really wish it'd be as easy in TVPaint. But perhaps someone knows a way of achieving this that I have overlooked?

[Sewie]

Here's another storyboard example by the great sketch artist, Tamar Nelwan.
Again, I am referring to the straight lines in the background. There are situations and assignments where lines like these can be very appropriate (and quite tasteful, I find) like in the examples I posted.

[codywalzel]

I just realized that using the line tool with any activated custom brush allows you to place diagonal lines of your choosing with the edge qualities of that brush. So both specific perspective lines, and nice brush techniques can be had at once! This solves the shift-stroke question for me!

[Sewie]

Good for you, Cody.

Doesn't really solve it for me, though. When I use a custombrush, or any brush, with the line tool (from the main panel) I get a very hard expressionless line.

What I would like is a straight (diagonal) line with (for example) pressure control, either, thinkness controlled by pressure, or opacity. But preferably both. Is this somehow possible?

[furushil]

What I would like is a straight (diagonal) line with (for example) pressure control

Yes, me too.
Count me in.

I have not found a way to do that.

[codywalzel]

Its interesting because the program seems capable of handling such a feature, there is just no option to enable it. If I've turned on the pressure sensitive parameters for opacity and scale for a given tool, then the line tool for a stroke shows it as such while the user is drawing it. Yet when I let go to complete the stroke, it abandons the opacity and scale sensitivity. Maybe an easy potential option for future updates?

[Fabrice]

You can connect opacity, size, etc ... to "Fade", then tweak the profile curve.

[codywalzel]

Awesome, that works for me!

[Fabrice]

it also works with the spline tools.

[furushil]

Yes, this works perfectly.

[pixelpusher]

You can connect opacity, size, etc ... to "Fade", then tweak the profile curve.

Hi Fabrice,
I like to think that I have a good working knowledge of TV Paint, but I do not understand this "connection" of a fade to the drawing of a static curve or line.
I use fades often as a FX on a layer over time, but I don't see how this works.
Could you explain a bit further the process involved?
Thanks!
Casey

[Fabrice]

hello Casey,

Here are more informations about the "Fade" connection.

[furushil]

hello Casey,

Here are more informations about the "Fade" connection.

Strangely, I cannot get the profile editor and the line tool work together for "fade".

It is working with the stroke tool but...

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... nothing is happening when using the line tool.

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Am I doing something wrong?

When I change the profile editor I get some lines with the line tool but not the desired result.

[pixelpusher]

hello Casey,

Here are more informations about the "Fade" connection.

Thanks for the refresher on this!