How to Resize/Scale Layer

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RiddleOfSteel
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How to Resize/Scale Layer

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I have drawn layer of clean roughs animation, onto a deliberately oversized resolution - 3200 x 1800, so that I can scale it down as needed to fit 1920x1080 and frame it as I like.

I understand that the 'Transform'>'Position' tool allows me to scale down drawings and resposition them, which I have tried. However, when I scale them down and apply the changes, what happens is that the drawings DO scale down, but when played back I see that the individual drawings have shifted position in relation to eachother, destroying the animation.

I believe this is because each drawing varies in size - firstly because the character is moving and secondly, because I have notes on some of the frames, and the 'Position' tool selects each drawing individually, encompassing only drawn marks on each frame.
What TVP seems to have done is taken the center of the drawings and aligned them all, but if one drawing is bigger/different to another, then the center of the drawing shifts. And since all of the drawings are lined up for animation, shifting the drawings based on this centering will misalign them.

If instead I could scale the entire layer, perhaps that would circumvent the problem. Is there a way to do this? Or any other solution to the problem that I'm overlooking? I'm very new to TVP, I've only been using it for practical purposes as a student for a week.

The version I'm using is TVP Pro 9.5.3 (32bit?) on windows 64bit.

Thanks, RoS
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Welcome RoS,

I made a short test in 10.5.7 and there is no problem doing it the way you described. Version 9 is totally outdated and there is also a some buggy cracked webshit out there. I would ask your school if there is a chance to get an update.

Maybe there is a chance to help, if you can tell us the excactly Version Number (9.xx.xx) you use. I also suggest to update to the latest version of 9. I cannot remember that I had similar problems when I used version 9.
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OK, 9.5.3.
You should update to 9.5.21. (If it is not possible to update with the update function inside TVPaint, you probably using webshit.)
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yep, the first step is to update ... v9.5.3 is way outdated, the last one is v9.5.21 in the old "NINE" family

regarding your Layer-ReScale problem, why not to use the Keyframer ?
check on the "Keep Aspect" gadget, and play with the Size % , then, Select All, + Apply.
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Thank you for your very quick replies, I will try to update. This must be a bugged out version.

The Keyframer sounds interesting, but so far I have been afraid to go near it because I'm completely unfamiliar with it. Could you point me in the direction to some instructions on how to use it for this particular purpose at all? I've actually opened it up to use it before then immediately shut it down in fear and confusion lol.

Is this all I have to do?
check on the "Keep Aspect" gadget, and play with the Size % , then, Select All, + Apply
Nothing more complicated than that?
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RiddleOfSteel wrote:Thank you for your replies, I will try to update. This must be a bugged out version.

The Keyframer sounds interesting, but so far I have been afraid to go near it because I'm completely unfamiliar with it. Could you point me in the direction to some instructions on how to use it for this particular purpose at all? I've actually opened it up to use it before then immediately shut it down in fear and confusion lol.

Is this all I have to do?
check on the "Keep Aspect" gadget, and play with the Size % , then, Select All, + Apply
Nothing more complicated than that?
it's more simple than it looks, the instructions are :
- check on the "Keep Aspect" gadget,
- Scale down (Size %) with "Preview" gadget checked,
- play the preview to check everything is OK all along the layer length,
- Select All Frames + Apply
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RiddleOfSteel wrote: The version I'm using is TVP Pro 9.5.3 (32bit?) on windows 64bit.
You're obviously a new user , so I'm curious : how and why are you using version 9.5.3 ? 9.5.3 is from 5 years ago. 9.5.3 hasn't been available to purchase since early 2010 . The last updated version of 9.5 that was sold was 9.5.21 in November 2011.
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ZigOtto wrote:
RiddleOfSteel wrote:Thank you for your replies, I will try to update. This must be a bugged out version.

The Keyframer sounds interesting, but so far I have been afraid to go near it because I'm completely unfamiliar with it. Could you point me in the direction to some instructions on how to use it for this particular purpose at all? I've actually opened it up to use it before then immediately shut it down in fear and confusion lol.

Is this all I have to do?
check on the "Keep Aspect" gadget, and play with the Size % , then, Select All, + Apply
Nothing more complicated than that?
it's more simple than it looks, the instructions are :
- check on the "Keep Aspect" gadget,
- Scale down (Size %) with "Preview" gadget checked,
- play the preview to check everything is OK all along the layer length,
- Select All Frames + Apply
Worked perfectly. Thank you ever so much!
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RiddleOfSteel wrote:The version I'm using is TVP Pro 9.5.3 (32bit?) on windows 64bit.
Oh my...
You know, you should really update your TVPaint.
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ZigOtto wrote:yep, the first step is to update ... v9.5.3 is way outdated, the last one is v9.5.21 in the old "NINE" family
v9.5.21 is an update to v9.5.3? How did this happen?
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schwarzgrau wrote: v9.5.21 is an update to v9.5.3? How did this happened?
yep, 18 updates happened between 9.5.3 and 9.5.21
it could have been more evident if 9.5.3 was called 9.5.03
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ah ok, now I got it
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