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Re: Various films made with TVPaint

Posted: 07 Jan 2013, 14:51
by Paul Fierlinger
Too bad the music is so weak -- there is no correlation between music and imagery, which makes the jump cuts look more like mistakes than dynamic accents (to the studio's or agency's credit?)

Re: Various films made with TVPaint

Posted: 07 Jan 2013, 15:06
by Elodie
Not only the music is weak, the video could have a better quality, but this is the only one I found :?

Re: Various films made with TVPaint

Posted: 07 Jan 2013, 15:15
by Paul Fierlinger
Better quality in what way do you mean? Full animation? (which is what I would have preferred to have seen, but had not made note of out of falsely placed kindness.) Now we're getting somewhere. :twisted:

Re: Various films made with TVPaint

Posted: 07 Jan 2013, 15:19
by Elodie
Paul Fierlinger wrote:Better quality in what way do you mean?
I mean the quality of the export, it's a little too pixelized and I think the ratio is not respected completely (the image seems a little too stretched). =)

Re: Various films made with TVPaint

Posted: 07 Jan 2013, 15:20
by Fabrice
It's sounds like it's a rip of a TV advert, so the quality of the compression (and colors ?) is far from being good.
Let's wait for a more official version.

Re: Various films made with TVPaint

Posted: 07 Jan 2013, 15:33
by Paul Fierlinger
Fabrice wrote:It's sounds like it's a rip of a TV advert, so the quality of the compression (and colors ?) is far from being good.
Let's wait for a more official version.
In that case, true... it wouldn't hurt to make this a rule here; only works submitted by authors should be shown.

Re: Various films made with TVPaint

Posted: 07 Jan 2013, 15:59
by Fabrice
yes, but when it's about advertising, it's always difficult to know who did what.

Re: Various films made with TVPaint

Posted: 07 Jan 2013, 16:18
by Paul Fierlinger
Well, my point is just that if someone from the studio was connected to the thread, we could have a conversation. I'm always keen on hearing the business end experiences of other animators -- or just anything of interest that went into any of these samples of films made with TVP, besides just the fact that TVP was used in their production (always good to see too, of course!)

Sometimes I get the feeling in these threads that all animated films are seen by members of the forums as mere ships passing through the night; something to be observed, but unnecessary to comment upon beyond the shout-out: "COOL!" into total darkness.

Re: Various films made with TVPaint

Posted: 07 Jan 2013, 16:32
by Fabrice
For sure, I prefer when people introduce themselves and their works.
But most of them even don't speak english.

I wish we could do more in terms of interview, users-stories, inviting people to discuss, etc ...
But it's a really time consumming task. (NDA, translations, emails, approvement of the producer, etc ...)

However, I wish that each animation could have its own topic. (more easy to follow and to see if something stays during months, it means it's more relevant)

Re: Various films made with TVPaint

Posted: 07 Jan 2013, 17:51
by D.T. Nethery
Elodie wrote:
Paul Fierlinger wrote:Better quality in what way do you mean?
I mean the quality of the export, it's a little too pixelized and I think the ratio is not respected completely (the image seems a little too stretched). =)

I think this version posted on Vimeo is better compression quality :




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http://www.chezeddy.com/blog/101/boiron ... hane-berla" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



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Re: Various films made with TVPaint

Posted: 07 Jan 2013, 23:33
by ZigOtto
and in english :
This Boiron film was directed by Stéphane Berla in Chez Eddy’s animation studio, thanks to Marina Coudray’s original designs.

One of the film’s intentions was to create a particularly textured and organic environment, which gives the impression it is a painting in motion, with a dynamic animation. Generally animated films are made of pictures with very precise outlines to facilitate the animation, howhever this is clearly not true here, so the project was complex.
To get this render, it was necessary to work with lots of layers in TV Paint to have a result very closed to the designs.
Then the animated elements were integrated in a 3D environment which enabled to do all the camera motions, and all the ink stains and watercolour transitions (which were shot).
The animation is in 6 frames per seconds: to lighten the production, but also for artistic reasons: as the characters are very textured, the outlines would have moved too fast with more frames, which would have lacked of elegance. “The old man and the sea” by Alexander petrov, was one of the references. Yet some parts must have been worked in 12 frames per seconds during wider movements.

Credits :

Client : Boiron
Production : Swan
Agence : Swan / Indiana
Director : Stéphane Berla
Design : Marina Coudray
Animation studio : Chez Eddy
Lead animator : Patrick Imbert
Animator : Matthieu Gaillard
Compositing : Nicolas Hu
Music (not the official version) : Sandy Lavallart
I like the add-on comment "not the official version" in the Music credit ... :mrgreen:

http://stephaneberla.com/gallery/stodal-boiron/

Re: Various films made with TVPaint

Posted: 07 Jan 2013, 23:46
by Paul Fierlinger
The Vimeo version looks substantially better, particularly in the animation quality, though having said that, I still think the animators weren't that far from having done it in twos and should have gone the extra steps -- it's a very short piece of uncomplicated motion after all. For instance I saw no reason in making her blowing hair cycle between two or three positions. But I'm sure the spot stands out and works (except for the sorry music which might be different but remains very unexceptional.)

Re: Various films made with TVPaint

Posted: 08 Jan 2013, 07:52
by Elodie
Thank you very much David ! :D

Re: Various films made with TVPaint

Posted: 08 Jan 2013, 18:50
by Fabrice
I will ask to the studio if we can post more stuff from this advert, like the brushes we created for that occasion.
But I doubt they will accept. :?:

Re: Various films made with TVPaint

Posted: 13 Feb 2013, 18:02
by neonnoodle
This interview with Minkyu Lee mentions TVPaint in the making of "Adam and Dog."

http://www.awn.com/articles/short-films ... page/2%2C1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;