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Re: Films made with TVPaint

Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 15:53
by ten_zero
Calm down everyone, here is a "Films made with TVPaint" topic, right ?

Re: Films made with TVPaint

Posted: 31 Dec 2013, 08:09
by Elodie
Nobody is nervous here, we are just sharing some point of views about how cinema influences families when they want to "offer" an animal to their beloved children :wink:

But you're right, we are not really in the topic anymore :mrgreen:


So let's go back to the subject :


Re: Films made with TVPaint

Posted: 31 Dec 2013, 10:36
by Paul Fierlinger
This is a perfect showcase of how TVPaint has its own "look". Now I feel that there are other things important about this little piece of work, but in order to not drift from the topic I'll say no more (except a note that this is a pity and that the artist deserves better :| )

Re: Films made with TVPaint

Posted: 31 Dec 2013, 10:39
by Sewie
Please elaborate, Paul.

Re: Films made with TVPaint

Posted: 31 Dec 2013, 12:09
by Paul Fierlinger
Ummm... I'm afraid right now, but this does help make my case that TVPaint has excellent tools to create many moods that CGI and Flash usually fail at, and that I stand by my view that this indeed fits into the Films Made with TVP theme.

Re: Films made with TVPaint

Posted: 13 Jan 2014, 13:38
by Elodie
Some animation exercices found on Twitter : http://tears-andgumdrops.tumblr.com/pos ... e-lets-get" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Various stuff made with TVPaint

Posted: 13 Jan 2014, 13:44
by Paul Fierlinger
Tulip's real name was Queenie... :wink:

Re: Various stuff made with TVPaint

Posted: 13 Jan 2014, 14:58
by Thunderdog
I think what Paul is getting at and is mistakenly referring to as a 'TVPaint look' is more the 'digital paint look'. Not that vector program paint style but the digital look that can be got in nearly any raster based paint program.

Re: Various stuff made with TVPaint

Posted: 11 Feb 2014, 09:53
by CLO
A commercial made in South Africa by Black Ginger team :

Darrin Hofmeyr wrote :
We recently used TVPaint to complete a 90sec commercial for a South African Cat Food.
All the cat animation, clean up and colouring was done with TVPaint. Other software used was Photoshop, Softimage and Nuke.
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It was a great experience creating it.
As a company that creates 99% CG work to delve into 2D was a new avenue for us.
We hired a freelancer, Sasha Perdigao, to do the 2D animation in TV Paint and two of our in-house artists learnt how to use it to do the cleanup.
We will definitely be using it again for future projects and in fact have four little commercials coming up done by the middle of April.

Re: Various stuff made with TVPaint

Posted: 11 Feb 2014, 10:13
by Elodie
That's so cute ^^

I like the eye of the cat when it's looking at the big fish :P

Re: Various stuff made with TVPaint

Posted: 11 Feb 2014, 11:30
by Paul Fierlinger
There are quite a few nice story ideas in this spot, except where it gets too cute and of course the ending; a too obvious committee of cats dreamed up by a committee of advertising fat cats. I thought some of the tricks of the 3D mindset that had crept into the 2D world were quite telling -- we all get caught up in the tricks of our routines and some things are hard to shake off. My favorite part was the cat's trip into the wilderness because it had a nice and steady flow with little room for the cat to get too cute.

Re: Various stuff made with TVPaint

Posted: 11 Feb 2014, 12:33
by Elodie
Haha, you're so predictable Paul : I knew you'll pull a face on my "so cute" :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

More seriously, I like some parts in the animation, especially the moment where the cat is stretching on the kitchen's sideboard, at the beginning. They really succeeded to give this "elastic" capacity that cats have :)

Re: Various stuff made with TVPaint

Posted: 11 Feb 2014, 13:14
by Paul Fierlinger
Well, we're both predictable. The stretching and other real cat characteristics are pleasant to watch because it shows the animator knows cats, but then it's followed (and spoiled) by that tiresome, useless and predictable squash and stretch, for no other reason than to show the animator knows about stretch and squash too.

Re: Various stuff made with TVPaint

Posted: 11 Feb 2014, 16:50
by Elodie
I always thought that using skills and knowledge you have about techniques or your job was common sense :D

Personally, if they had animated an unflexible cat, the result would have been really weird :|

Re: Various stuff made with TVPaint

Posted: 11 Feb 2014, 17:08
by Paul Fierlinger
Squash and stretch or stretch and squash was invented by the Disney animators of yore for a simple purpose: When the motion you are creating is too subtle to be registered by all viewers, you exaggerate by squash to bring attention to the place where it will happen, the following stretch being the "happening". But too many people use this gimmick whenever a character moves, the reason for doing so is to save themselves work by making the move happen fast. So you have a character flipping in this spastic way whenever it goes into motion and it is irritating to watch.

My gripe therefore is, that after the animator executes a nice, languid cat stretch so true to life, then he jerks the cat completely out of character into a squash and stretch gimmick for no apparent reason. Therefore my conclusion: some animators must believe it shows skillfulness to periodically use this S&S throughout any film; gimmickry for the sake of gimmickry which doesn't push the story anywhere and serves no other purpose than an animator using a crutch gesture, like, you know, I mean, like a crutch word before you, like, go on to the next, you know, cat gesture. :|