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Malcoonimages

Posted: 16 Aug 2008, 00:53
by malcooning
some of my TVP drawings

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Re: Malcoonimages

Posted: 16 Aug 2008, 01:21
by Paul Fierlinger
Nice experiments; I like the ones with the thinner lines the best (like the third and fourth from the bottom). But that's just my preferred line width in general. I feel that fat, or heavily scribbled lines with many overlays indicate less finish, or more cover-up of underlying uncertainties, whereas thin lines indicate a higher level of drawing skills because they are so stark and can stand on their own.

The bottom one; does the sign say "Free (or release) me"?

Re: Malcoonimages

Posted: 16 Aug 2008, 09:52
by slowtiger
Some of those I like, pretty good emulation of paper and dirt ...but was that faster than on paper, or did it take longer to make it look "real"?

Re: Malcoonimages

Posted: 16 Aug 2008, 13:09
by Sierra Rose
I enjoyed the motion in them all and I really like the expression on the man's face...so subtle but readable. The dancing ? cow makes me laugh with her yellow teeth. I love how you got her softness, especially the ears. Also your mandrill variations in line are really pleasing, and the colors. I don't get some of the symbolism, but I still think they are all wonderful, each in its own way. Thanks for sharing your talent...very inspiring to me.

Oh and the Venus fly trap? Very fierce.

Re: Malcoonimages

Posted: 16 Aug 2008, 14:37
by malcooning
thanks for your comments.
Paul Fierlinger wrote:The bottom one; does the sign say "Free (or release) me"?
it says "forgive me". close :)
slowtiger wrote:but was that faster than on paper, or did it take longer to make it look "real"?
Faster, and more flexible. of course I cannot have the whole spectrum of natural results, but in real medium I would have had to wait for any wetness to dry off first.
If it's take me longer to achieve it digitally than on paper, I would have ditched it long time ago.
Usually my meandering in TVP are in search of techniques and brushes that would allow me to me to apply a drawing QUICKLY, and with as many interesting mistakes as possible.
Sierra K Rose wrote:I don't get some of the symbolism, but I still think they are all wonderful, each in its own way.
There is no symbolism. I dislike symbolism, as it eats into my drawings. I use either metaphors, or nothing of the kind at all.
the fact that you can enjoy them on their own makes the whole point - no need to go out on a symbol-hunt. it's an unnecessary headache.

Re: Malcoonimages

Posted: 16 Aug 2008, 14:53
by Paul Fierlinger
it says "forgive me". close :)
The picture then brings back the memory of a gravestone in Florida (close to Hemingway's gravestone actually) that says: "I told you I was sick." :D :D

I like how you differentiate a metaphor from symbolism... I feel the same way and particularly in animated films where there should be no time to ponder over such riddles; if there would be time, the story would have to be very, very slow (zzzz....). Weren't you pretty much just doodling here; seeing what you can do with some new brushes?

Re: Malcoonimages

Posted: 16 Aug 2008, 15:15
by Mandalaholic
I really like your unique and sophisticated style. I love the Baboon's colors and texture.

Re: Malcoonimages

Posted: 16 Aug 2008, 15:48
by Jesoped
Great stuff - I like them all in their own way, especially the "forgive me" illustration, very simple and graphic. The cow is funny. Very inspiring work. :D

Re: Malcoonimages

Posted: 16 Aug 2008, 17:29
by Sierra Rose
I guess I have symbols and metaphors mixed up somewhat. (I thought a metaphor was a symbol...especially in graphics.)

I didn't get the metaphors either.

Re: Malcoonimages

Posted: 16 Aug 2008, 18:14
by Paul Fierlinger
A metaphor is when one object or story takes over the part of another object or story to give an added meaning to a thought. I have uploaded here:
www.video.paulfierlinger.com/metaphor/
an example of the way I like to use metaphors. Tulip is giving birth to puppies and I needed to simplify my work so I wouldn't have to animate the entire complicated procedure. But to keep the topic serious I added the metaphor of a "Divine Wisdom" by showing the mystery of starlings in flight.

Now if someone would want to hunt for symbolisms, one could possibly point to the package as a symbol for "gift" saying that the packaged gift is a symbol of puppies coming as a blessing, which is not what I had intended, but I know that people who like to search for symbolisms might point this out.

The clip is an H.264 mp4 and will play well with VLC or QT.

Re: Malcoonimages

Posted: 16 Aug 2008, 20:04
by Sierra Rose
Yes, other than thinking it was a kind of symbol, I do know what a metaphor is and these are wonderful....especially the box string being the umbilical. Also the starlings are apt....it is always a wonder to watch them move as a host. Bringing her back personified again is very funny to watch along with the words in that part.

Re: Malcoonimages

Posted: 16 Aug 2008, 20:27
by malcooning
Paul wrote:Weren't you pretty much just doodling here; seeing what you can do with some new brushes?
That's exactly what it's been.
doodling and searching.
For me, The way to the brush is the way to the drawing.
I always like finding the intention of the drawing only when it's almost finished.
In fact, when I do find the intention, I find it difficult to have a reason to continue drawing it!


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Re: Malcoonimages

Posted: 16 Aug 2008, 23:47
by Julian wigley
Good drawings. Keep them coming. I also like your Battle for Cable Street snippet.
There is usually always a line (or brush stroke) to be found in "uncertainty" otherwise its just rote thinking and image making.
Jules.

Re: Malcoonimages

Posted: 19 Aug 2008, 08:14
by malcooning
Watery , pencily kinds:

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and a completely different one:

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Re: Malcoonimages

Posted: 19 Aug 2008, 11:02
by ingie01
I would like to know how to post work in my topics area. Are there instructions for this? Thanks in advance.......