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I usually sketch very rough in blue, then take another color to do a correction rough over the first rough, before going into clean-up. At the moment the sketch pensils are standard in "behind" mode, so I have to reset it manually every time to "color". It would be nice to have to do this only once and TVP remembers my settings for that tool. It would also be nice to change the color of the pensils, so I can work with lightblue for the first rough, and a darker blue for the second rough (instead of the default red or orange) To finish it off the new color can be reflected in the thumbnail button.

So it would no longer be "sketch panel red" and "sketch panel orange", but just "sketch panel" where the settings are personalised.

I am pretty new to TVP (coming from traditional paper), so maybe these things are possible and I did not find it yet.

I found a way to get more or less what I want. Change color and mode, using the "grab current tool with colors" option. But the problem is that it does not affect the "tint color" and "erase color" tools. So automatising this, so it all works together, would be a plus.

hilere wrote:But the problem is that it does not affect the "tint color" and "erase color" tools.

That's strange because I don't have any problem to save pencils with "tint" or "erase" mode. Don't forget those modes respectively "erase" (no color) and "tint" an existing color =)

hilere wrote:So automatising this, so it all works together, would be a plus.

What do you mean ? I'm not sure to understand

I am not talking about saving brushes in color mode or erase mode. I am purely talking about the Sketch panel.
It would be nice that if I change the color of the blue pencil, the same color change automatically happens in the "all blue" button, "Erase blue" button, the "tint blue" button, the "magic blue eraser" and the "Erase blue and red" buttons of the same sketch panel.
At the moment these panels are predefined as "sketch panel red" and "sketch panel orange" . Being able to easily personalize these panels (brush color, mode and options) brings the TVP software closer to real pensil on paper.

hilere wrote:I am not talking about saving brushes in color mode or erase mode. I am purely talking about the Sketch panel.
It would be nice that if I change the color of the blue pencil, the same color change automatically happens in the "all blue" button, "Erase blue" button, the "tint blue" button, the "magic blue eraser" and the "Erase blue and red" buttons of the same sketch panel.
At the moment these panels are predefined as "sketch panel red" and "sketch panel orange" . Being able to easily personalize these panels (brush color, mode and options) brings the TVP software closer to real pensil on paper.

yes, but in your exemple, erasing light-blue sketching while preserving a dark-blue 1rst-clean could be perilous, the color-key is much more easier with a HUE value very different between the 2 colors, so that's the reason for Red, Green, Blue sketching-panel, or the Blue / Orange one.

hilere wrote:... Being able to easily personalize these panels (brush color, mode and options) brings the TVP software closer to real pensil on paper.

not really, in the real world, with real pencil on paper, we haven't "real" eraser which is able to preserve one color and erase the others,
or tools to turn a red line into a black line, and vis-versa. Numeric tools have some limitations, but also their advantages ...

ps : to change the "Behind" mode to "Color" mode of your Sketch-Panel pen, change the drawing mode, edit (RMB-click)the button, save it (Grab current Tool, Keep Icon), then OK.

Thanks for pulling me back down in the real numeric world with it's own limitations. Maybe things stay better the way they are.

I found a way that makes me very happy for my roughing by creating me a brush that allows me to do everything I need without having to switch brushes. First rough and first clean with the same brush. As soon as I have refined it enough I'll post the brush on the appropriate place.

What a good night rest does.

Still think it would not be a bad thing to make it easier to change the colors within the sketchpanel. As animator on paper you don't want to be restricted to 3 colors to work with, especially when you start animating special effects.

hilere wrote: As animator on paper you don't want to be restricted to 3 colors to work with, especially when you start animating special effects.

there is always the option of using more then just one layer

So how does this help with the color restriction?

Peter just wanted to say (I guess) that you are not forced to use only the sketch panel. You can also use as several layers and so use as many as layers you want, instead of drawing only on one layer.

still don't get how this helps with the color restrictions. Also, if I get it right, you don't have the advantages of the sketch brushes.

If you use : 1 color for 1 layer, you can use about 16 millions of colors =p
But if you want to change the colors and their links in the Sketch panels, it's impossible.

multilayers technic, as Peter suggested, means you can draw with a custom color (any picked color from the palette),
one color by layer, and so to be able to change a color by another, or erase it without affecting the others (features of the sketch panel) via this technic.
the charge being you have more layers to manage, of course, but it could be usefull when animating light/shadow edges, for instance.

ZigOtto wrote:multilayers technic, as Peter suggested, means you can draw with a custom color (any picked color from the palette),
one color by layer, and so to be able to change a color by another, or erase it without affecting the others (features of the sketch panel) via this technic.
the charge being you have more layers to manage, of course, but it could be usefull when animating light/shadow edges, for instance.

Yes Zig and Elodie, this is what i meant.
I thought my 'solution' (using more then one layer) would be totally obvious hence the
the tools in the Animator tool panel make animating on a couple of layers reasonably manageable.
... even if you could have a greatly expanded color range in the sketch panel, there are also drawbacks to having everything on one layer.