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Elodie wrote:
Here is the trailer of a Norvegian TV serie, made by Sandnes Media. The animation and the colorization are made in TVP Animation.

D.T. Nethery wrote:It's interesting that for publicity purposes in the making-of video (above) they have taken steps to disguise the digital origins of the drawings by adding some "flipping paper" effects to the animation. I think I understand why this is done for the general public consumption: the minute you tell people "we used a digital program to do the animation" many people have this crazy idea stuck in their head : "ah-ha, the computer does it all" , as if the someone simply types in a command and pushes a button , then the computer program animates the scene. Whereas people still understand that if something is hand-drawn an artist is responsible for creating it. It is difficult for many people to grasp the idea that there can be hand-drawn animation made on a computer , which is virtually the same process as hand-drawn animation on paper, except the lines are drawn directly into a program like TVP using a tablet, instead of drawn on paper and scanned/photographed.

It's interesting that for publicity purposes in the making-of video (above) they have taken steps to disguise the digital origins of the drawings by adding some "flipping paper" effects to the animation. I think I understand why this is done for the general public consumption: the minute you tell people "we used a digital program to do the animation" many people have this crazy idea stuck in their head : "ah-ha, the computer does it all" , as if the someone simply types in a command and pushes a button , then the computer program animates the scene. Whereas people still understand that if something is hand-drawn an artist is responsible for creating it. It is difficult for many people to grasp the idea that there can be hand-drawn animation made on a computer , which is virtually the same process as hand-drawn animation on paper, except the lines are drawn directly into a program like TVP using a tablet, instead of drawn on paper and scanned/photographed.

Elodie wrote:Yes, this video with the rabbit animated "on paper" is curious. I'm going to ask Hans Jorgen Sandnes if it's a "montage" or if they finally animated on paper =)
I'll keep you posted ^^

D.T. Nethery wrote:I think I understand why this is done for the general public consumption: the minute you tell people "we used a digital program to do the animation" many people have this crazy idea stuck in their head : "ah-ha, the computer does it all" , as if the someone simply types in a command and pushes a button , then the computer program animates the scene.

Hi Elodie!

Thank you! The post on CartoonBrew was very nice, and it's great to see TVPaint users are dicussing this.
I'm so glad you're using this on the TVPaint page. Because, it's ALL sketched, animated and coloured in TVPaint.
The backgrounds are PhotoShop, and the composite is in AppleMotion.

We're working on the subject of painting the backgrounds in TVP as well.
The composite is very minimal, and AppleMotion works great with FinalCut.

OK – so, the paper flicker:
It's not drawn on paper. The flicker is added later. BUT the charts, sketches and everyting else is authentic.
So, why the paper? We're visiting hundreds of schools each year, talking about what animation IS and how hand-drawn animation works.
This video is not a "promotional piece", but a video we're using when talking to the students.
We're explaining how animation works, that many drawings are put together in sequense. This is a way to visualize this.
You see the fluid movement, and still feels all of the drawings passing by.
After that, we're telling them that we can now draw directly on the screen, and shows them the images from our studio:
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We're also telling how that changes the process of animation, and that it's still hand-drawn, drawing after drawing.
Of course we're telling about TVPaint, and how it changed our work.

I see that David Nethery is active on you forum, and he posted a very nice comment on CartoonBrew.
Well, he's the reason we started using TVPaint in the first place : ) We researched the software, and found his blog.
The way he presented the software made us very curious, and we tried the software.
It's now our all-time favourite software.

I hope this gives you some insight. But since others are so interested in our process, I will make a post on how we're working.
I'll also include how the animation is actually done in the software. I'll post it on your forum and my blog.

Anyway, feel free to share this information : ) Looking forward to hear from you again!

All the best,

Hans

the minute you tell people "we used a digital program to do the animation" many people have this crazy idea stuck in their head : "ah-ha, the computer does it all" , as if the someone simply types in a command and pushes a button , then the computer program animates the scene.

I hope this gives you some insight. But since others are so interested in our process, I will make a post on how we're working.
I'll also include how the animation is actually done in the software. I'll post it on your forum and my blog.

Elodie wrote: Yes, this video with the rabbit animated "on paper" is curious.

Elodie wrote: I'm going to ask Hans Jorgen Sandnes if it's a "montage" or if they finally animated on paper =)
I'll keep you posted ^^

I see that David Nethery is active on you forum, and he posted a very nice comment on CartoonBrew.
Well, he's the reason we started using TVPaint in the first place : ) We researched the software, and found his blog.
The way he presented the software made us very curious, and we tried the software.
It's now our all-time favourite software.

D.T. Nethery wrote:... to me it is the software that most closely duplicates the traditional animation process
and I think it is something that most traditional animators fall in love with once they try it .