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Hi Everyone,
Anyone know the best brush for getting this kind of effect? Is this possible - or would I need to create a custom paper texture?
Thanks!
Hilary

I've never been able to create this result with any natural media application. Stuff like this I do on paper and scan it. The so-called "brushes" for Photoshop are nothing else: just scans which get stamped.

Using several brushes (tool-bin watercolors + sponge + other custom brushes) could give a result close to your picture, but you will need so much work on the settings and so many tests that you will get a faster and better result with a simple scan (then you can use it as a paper).

Hi Fabrice and Slow Tiger-
Thanks for this - I was pretty sure that was the answer but just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything!
Cheers,
Hilary

slowtiger wrote:The so-called "brushes" for Photoshop are nothing else: just scans which get stamped.

Though it doesn't work in TVPaint, I created a system for simulating many aspects of watercolor painting in Photoshop, including the wet edge and paper effects. You can see it as a detailed tutorial here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnRn402WuUk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://zoepiel.com/tutorials/watercolor/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

neonnoodle wrote:Though it doesn't work in TVPaint, I created a system for simulating many aspects of watercolor painting in Photoshop, including the wet edge and paper effects.

Hmmm, in what your technique is better than the one used in TVPaint ?
Of course in TVPaint you can create your own brushes by cutting stamps. You can also manage papers and wet edge, mix colors while painting, etc...

Hey Neonnoodle,

this is a very nice and inspiring tutorial. Thanks!
I don't know if it is possible to do the same as easy in TVP as in your tutorial. I doodled around 10 minutes in TVPaint, but didn't got any belivable watercolor style using the standard brushes and papers like in your examples. Unfortunately I don't have the time now, to make more tests - but it could be an interesting challenge between PS and TVP.

I experimented with watercolor effects in TVP a little while back. You can't get the real drippy water effects easily, but with the use of the watercolor brushes, sponge and papers, you can get some watercolor-y results.

Elodie wrote:

neonnoodle wrote:Though it doesn't work in TVPaint, I created a system for simulating many aspects of watercolor painting in Photoshop, including the wet edge and paper effects.

Hmmm, in what your technique is better than the one used in TVPaint ?
Of course in TVPaint you can create your own brushes by cutting stamps. You can also manage papers and wet edge, mix colors while painting, etc...

My Photoshop system is a very different approach altogether, because it applies the paper texture as a mask instead of as an alpha modifier for the brush. The wet edge is an independent layer effect. One result is that, if you use a blending tool on the colors, the paper texture is not blended. The colors blend, but the texture they are sitting on remains intact: Because the wet-edge is an attribute/effect of the layer, it constantly updates, adding and removing the edge to whatever the layer contents are. TVP does this partially with the "Drying" function, but can only go so far. By making many watercolor layers, and choosing to apply wet edges to some of them but not others, one is able to produce many variations of "wet into wet," "dry on wet," as well as the use of plain water to diffuse out a hard edge -- without losing the paper fiber below:



Again, this is just a completely different system than the way TVP works, because it relies on features specific to Photoshop (layer masking and layer effects).

Recently I saw a "flowing in realtime" digital-watercolor technique done with the latest Painter version:


---start at 1:40 !





Well, it looks like some SFX-post effect applied.

hi Neonnoodle,

Did you try the wet profile of TVPaint ?
It could help to create nice watercolor effect.

The following brushes (tool-bin) may help to get the result you describe (not the same process, but it could be interesting for you).
About Painter 12, I'm not a big fan of the post rendering of a brush.
To have tried it, I can say it requires a very powerful computer.