about moving selected pixels

[Lukas]

It would be nice when you use the lasso to select a part of the drawing, when you start moving the selection around, it would 'crop' the selection to only non-transparant pixels. And wouldn't add new pixels to the selection.

Photoshop behaves like this, it makes moving selections much easier.

[Fabrice]

Sorry, but I don't understand, would you mind posting an image to show us ?

[Svengali]

Perhaps a case of "Display" being checked during cutbrush operation - so all layers (and background) is being captured?

Sven

[Lukas]

Sorry, but I don't understand, would you mind posting an image to show us ?

I'll try and make a recording of the different kind of behaviours and post it here But...I need to find some time

[Lukas]

But...I need to find some time

Ehm, ok I just did it right away, no need to search for time...

Here's a video showing TVPaint selection + moving behaviour and then showing how the same actions in Photoshop have different results:

[qt]640,480,http://www.lukaskrepel.nl/temp/TVP/Selection.mov[/qt]

I personally think the Photoshop way is better, but I understand Adobe has a crazy big team and money...

[Sewie]

That doesn't happen here. Here it crops like you see in photoshop.
(I'm on W7 64x.)

Looks like a bug.

[Fabrice]

strange indeed. we will check monday.

[Lukas]

Ah, that's strange.

It's like this for me on both 32 and 64 bit on OS X.

Another question about the lasso tool, is it possible to substract from a selection with the lasso tool? (Again, referring to Photoshop where 'shift' is Add to selection and 'alt' is Substract from selection)

[Sewie]

For me 'add' is on by default and subtract is by pressing the right mouse button, also by default. I have one of the buttons on the wacom pen set to erase and this works as 'subtract selection' as well.

[Mads Juul]

When using the Panning tool to move around my computer behaves the same way as Lukas.
I gueass Lukas is referring to the panning tool and not the transform tool.
-Mads

[Svengali]

Bug or not, why not use a cutbrush to accomplish the same thing?

Sven

[Lukas]

Bug or not, why not use a cutbrush to accomplish the same thing?

Sven

That's what I do now. But since these tools are nice too.

When using the Panning tool to move around my computer behaves the same way as Lukas.
I gueass Lukas is referring to the panning tool and not the transform tool.
-Mads

Ah, I just checked the difference between 'Shape Transform: Pan' and 'Shape Transform: Position'.

'Shape Transform: Position' works a bit better. But it still doesn't crop transparent pixels when you lasso a selection. But there might be a way to add this to a custom tool if there's a function to crop a selection to opaque pixels or something.

Personally, I like the way 'Shape Transform: Pan' doesn't require me to hit 'enter' and doesn't show the transform box. But I guess that's also why it's adding stuff to the selection...

[djsolomon]

hi All I would like to add to this thread as a note to the TVP crew that there is an issue with the shape transform tool
I have it assigned to a key command and it crashes quite allot.
To the lovers of the cut brush I am right there with you it's an amazing tool BUT some times its not the best way to do something
and i think the beauty of TVP is the range of solutions it offers users... so it seems to me that no tools should crash the program...
here is what happens:
1 . I want to move a part of a drawing ( not the entire drawing)
2 I select the portion of the drawing using the shape select :freehand which i have assgned to a key command
3 I hit my key command for shape transform:position ( a bounding box appears around the selection AND the mask button becomes highlighted)

If i do not deselect( using my key command for Shape select clear ) immediatly after moving or aletering the bounding box - and i pick another tool the program crashes
fixing this would be great... me thinks ; )

my best , debra

[Elodie]

If i do not deselect( using my key command for Shape select clear ) immediatly after moving or aletering the bounding box - and i pick another tool the program crashes
fixing this would be great... me thinks ; )

my best , debra

Hmm, indeed, that's a strange behavior.
Does anyone experiment the same thing ?

[djsolomon]

thanks for responding to the post Elodie...
I have been having this problem for some time - i think I posted about it a year ago.
. I am not sure if the issue is the mask or shape transform tool . I like being able ot move a selection with out having to make a cut brush- (when using the cutbrush you have to earase the original line work so this is faster...)

many thanks, debra