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Possibility to toggle a tool temporarily

Posted: 10 Dec 2013, 13:49
by Soom
This might sound a weird request, but I wonder, if there is a possibility to toggle a certain tool temporarily by holding down some key, and after releasing, switching back to the previous tool? Maybe some little nice script?
For example - I use a lot the 3pts spline for cleanup, but I need to fix little details with the free stroke. I don't want to click them every time I want to switch and I don't want to use more than 1 keyboard shortcut, it's just not handy with Cintiq. I wonder if I could, let's say, just hold one button which would instead toggle the other tool...
Thanks

Re: Possibility to toggle a tool temporarily

Posted: 10 Dec 2013, 14:14
by elmisilhumano
Soom wrote:This might sound a weird request, but I wonder, if there is a possibility to toggle a certain tool temporarily by holding down some key, and after releasing, switching back to the previous tool? Maybe some little nice script?
For example - I use a lot the 3pts spline for cleanup, but I need to fix little details with the free stroke. I don't want to click them every time I want to switch and I don't want to use more than 1 keyboard shortcut, it's just not handy with Cintiq. I wonder if I could, let's say, just hold one button which would instead toggle the other tool...
Thanks

+1
And while waiting the new feature use shortcut for Tools Brush:Get previous tool. It helps a little.

M.

Re: Possibility to toggle a tool temporarily

Posted: 10 Dec 2013, 14:40
by Paul Fierlinger
Actually there is such a tool built into TVP. I think it's called Swap Stylus Tips. But I use a plugin Svengali made, called
SWAP ERASE. I forgot why I like it better but I think it doesn't need to be refreshed when you use another tool. You have to experiment... Svengali's SWAP should be easy to find in search.

Re: Possibility to toggle a tool temporarily

Posted: 10 Dec 2013, 15:06
by Soom
elmisilhumano wrote: +1
And while waiting the new feature use shortcut for Tools Brush:Get previous tool. It helps a little.

M.
Hmm - but then I need another key for Next in order to go back to the previous tool?
Paul Fierlinger wrote:Actually there is such a tool built into TVP. I think it's called Swap Stylus Tips. But I use a plugin Svengali made, called
SWAP ERASE. I forgot why I like it better but I think it doesn't need to be refreshed when you use another tool. You have to experiment... Svengali's SWAP should be easy to find in search.
Thanks Paul
I downloaded both of the tools I found, and I couldn't get the Swap Erase to work - I am probably missing some obvious detail... But the older one - Swap Tool - actually works! It's not exactly what I want in this request, but it's close. Thanks. I wonder if Sven could alter this script, so it could work as a temporary toggle - so it works only on button pressed down, and toggles back on release?

Re: Possibility to toggle a tool temporarily

Posted: 10 Dec 2013, 15:10
by elmisilhumano
Soom wrote:
elmisilhumano wrote: +1
And while waiting the new feature use shortcut for Tools Brush:Get previous tool. It helps a little.

M.
Hmm - but then I need another key for Next in order to go back to the previous tool?
No it swaps between two last used tools. Actually I don't know what is the difference with this and the swap stylus tips?

M.

Re: Possibility to toggle a tool temporarily

Posted: 10 Dec 2013, 15:23
by Soom
elmisilhumano wrote: No it swaps between two last used tools. Actually I don't know what is the difference with this and the swap stylus tips?
M.
I tried it - indeed it swaps between two tools, but it doesn't do the main thing (like Svens plugin does) - it doesn't remember drawing mode. I need to swap between Freebrush and Spline tools, not between the pen tip shape itself. Same doesn't swap pen tips...

Re: Possibility to toggle a tool temporarily

Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 11:42
by Elodie
What if you create a custom panel with the both tools, then you edit the different brushes and insert a new command at the top, using Set Keystroke > Shape > Freehand / B-splines ?
Then, give them a name, to assign them to a key.

Something like this :
edit tool.png
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But to save time, that would be handy to grab a tool with the shape (stroke, b-spline...)

Re: Possibility to toggle a tool temporarily

Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 13:03
by Fabrice
But to save time, that would be handy to grab a tool with the shape (stroke, b-spline...)
not easy in the current engine.

Re: Possibility to toggle a tool temporarily

Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 13:38
by Soom
Elodie wrote:What if you create a custom panel with the both tools, then you edit the different brushes and insert a new command at the top, using Set Keystroke > Shape > Freehand / B-splines ?
Then, give them a name, to assign them to a key.
Hmmm... But this would mean to create 2 versions for each tool, which will fill up my workspace - not the best option if I want to keep it minimal... Assigning keys to each tool is even worse - I already don't have even one free key and it's not handy on Cintiq anyway.
By the way - there is more to this problem: the pen tips also don't remember drawing modes, which means if I draw with spline, and flip the pen to erase, it will also stay in spline no matter what it was before. Even worse - adding the "freehand" action to the eraser didn't help either - the pen can't remember that, unless I click the eraser button again.
I tried to use these Sven's Swap plugins, which, as I presumed, are supposed to solve this problem, but I can't get neither of them to work - nothing happens. (Paul, Sven - any suggestions on this? thanks)

Re: Possibility to toggle a tool temporarily

Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 15:50
by Svengali
Soom wrote:I tried to use these Sven's Swap plugins, which, as I presumed, are supposed to solve this problem, but I can't get neither of them to work - nothing happens. (Paul, Sven - any suggestions on this? thanks)
Soom, Not sure which plugins you are referring to... where did you find the swap plugins? when I search for them myself I come up empty. Can you provide links?

Sven

Re: Possibility to toggle a tool temporarily

Posted: 17 Dec 2013, 17:15
by Soom
Svengali wrote: Soom, Not sure which plugins you are referring to... where did you find the swap plugins? when I search for them myself I come up empty. Can you provide links?
Sven
Yep - in this thread - (it was Paul's reference): viewtopic.php?f=10&t=6321&hilit=swap+erase