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Traditional animation on Paper, coloring on TVpaint

Posted: 02 Nov 2015, 14:45
by Pablito
Hi everybody,

I'm planning to do a hand-drawing animation on paper, but color it digitally on TVpaint. I'm quiet new with TVpaint so I've no idea how to start. It is possible to import all the frames on TV paint (Background separated) and have only the lines?

Thanks

Re: Traditional animation on Paper, coloring on TVpaint

Posted: 02 Nov 2015, 14:50
by Elodie
Hi and welcome here !

You must summon the great power of the Scan Cleaner !

https://youtu.be/WyJK3qxNIVc?t=2m14s" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Traditional animation on Paper, coloring on TVpaint

Posted: 02 Nov 2015, 15:00
by D.T. Nethery
Pablito wrote:Hi everybody,

I'm planning to do a hand-drawing animation on paper, but color it digitally on TVpaint. I'm quiet new with TVpaint so I've no idea how to start. Is it possible to import all the frames to TVPaint (Background separated) and have only the lines?
YES. Scan your drawings with a logical sequential numbering system , using a prefix that identifies the scene and/or the character name .... for example :

B_SC_01_0001.png, B_SC_01_0002.png, B_SC_01_0003.png, B_SC_01_0004.png, B_SC_01_0005.png, etc.

Scan the Background layer separately with it's own prefix and number such as BG_SC_01_0001.png or whatever it may be , and bring the Background in on it's own layer in the TVPaint project, which can be placed under the animation layer and toggled on and off as needed. Once the animation layer has been imported into TVPaint run the Scan Cleaner FX to strip out the white pixels of the scans , so only the black pixels of the line art remains , thereby making the drawings transparent so the BG layer can show through from underneath the animation drawings.

Scan your pencil on paper animation drawings at high-res. Setting the scanner to scan the drawings at 300 dpi is a good general setting --- scanning full size 12 Field animation paper ( from edge-to-edge 12.5" x 10.5") will result in scans with pixel resolution of 3K - 3750 x 3150 , which may be rescaled to fit into either HDTV resolution project (1920 x 1613) which can then be composed within a standard 16:9 aspect ratio of 1920 x 1080 Camera View or rescale the big 3750 x 3150 scans to fit into a 2K Film resolution project of 2048 x 1536 (and use the Camera View to set the composition to either 16:9 aspect ratio of 1920 x 1080 ... or for 4:3 aspect ratio just leave the camera view parameters at 2048 x 1536 for 4:3 aspect ratio ).

Ask more questions about scanning if you have them. I have quite a bit of material accumulated about scanning , because many of my students still work on paper and scan their drawings into TVPaint for coloring.

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Re: Traditional animation on Paper, coloring on TVpaint

Posted: 02 Nov 2015, 15:18
by JQuinn
If you scan drawings into TVPaint can you manipulate them the same way you can if they are drawn directly in TVP?

Re: Traditional animation on Paper, coloring on TVpaint

Posted: 02 Nov 2015, 15:32
by D.T. Nethery
JQuinn wrote:If you scan drawings into TVPaint can you manipulate them the same way you can if they are drawn directly in TVP?
Yes, once you have imported the scanned drawings in to TVPaint and run the Scan Cleaner FX on them (to strip out the white pixels (or usually "light grey" pixels on scanned drawings) to make the drawings transparent) you may color the drawings with Flood Fill (Paintbucket) tool or Filled Rectangle tool or color them freehand with a brush tool or Filled Shape tool, or with CTG layer coloring. and you may apply various transformations and effects to the drawings from the FX Stack or using the Transform/Perspective/Warp tools in the main tool panel.

http://www.tvpaint.com/doc/tvp11/index. ... made-clean" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.tvpaint.com/doc/tvp11/index. ... lack-white" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



And check these out , you may find something helpful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeXEagfaVwc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (shows use of Flood Fill tool and Filled Stroke tool for coloring)

and

https://youtu.be/t_B8lB3Gf_w?t=2262" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (shows coloring using a brush , like "digital cel painting")

Re: Traditional animation on Paper, coloring on TVpaint

Posted: 02 Nov 2015, 15:49
by Pablito
Thanks everybody with your answers. This is really helpful. Can you do the scan cleaner with both TVPaint Animation 11 and 10, right?

Re: Traditional animation on Paper, coloring on TVpaint

Posted: 02 Nov 2015, 15:51
by D.T. Nethery
Pablito wrote:Thanks everybody with your answers. This is really helpful. Can you do the scan cleaner with both TVPaint Animation 11 and 10, right?
Yes.

Scan Cleaner has been around since TVPaint 9 (or even earlier in TVPaint 8 and TVPaint 7 ... but might have been called something different back then, I can't remember ... ) , through TVPaint 10 and in TVPaint 11.

Re: Traditional animation on Paper, coloring on TVpaint

Posted: 02 Nov 2015, 16:59
by Elodie
I think it was actually called Scan Cleaner on TVPaint 8 too.

Re: Traditional animation on Paper, coloring on TVpaint

Posted: 02 Nov 2015, 17:23
by Pablito
My TV paint version doesn't have a Scan Cleaner Black and White option? What should I do to make the white of the paper transparent?

Re: Traditional animation on Paper, coloring on TVpaint

Posted: 02 Nov 2015, 18:12
by Thierry
It's called "Scan Cleaner Black and White" since TVPaint Animation 11.0.1 (when we released the "Scan Cleaner Color"). On earlier versions, it's just "Scan Cleaner"

Re: Traditional animation on Paper, coloring on TVpaint

Posted: 02 Nov 2015, 21:02
by D.T. Nethery
Pablito wrote:My TV paint version doesn't have a Scan Cleaner Black and White option? What should I do to make the white of the paper transparent?
As Thierry said: "Scan Cleaner Black & White" is in TVPaint 11 , to differentiate between that and the newer "Scan Cleaner Color" function . What you want to use is just called "Scan Cleaner" in earlier versions of TVPaint.

Ok, so I guess you are using TVPaint 10 ... Which version ? (the most up to date iteration is 10.5.7 ... if yours is lower than that you should update. It's a free update .) .

See the TVPaint 10 User Manual, Lesson 6 - page 6-4 http://static.tvpaint.com/downloads/man ... sson06.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

and in Lesson 12 - page 12-11 - through - 12-12 http://static.tvpaint.com/downloads/man ... sson12.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Traditional animation on Paper, coloring on TVpaint

Posted: 04 Nov 2015, 17:03
by Pablito
Hello again! I need more advises about the process. I imported the animated sequence, and then the background on a different layer. I used the scanner cleaner. Then I start coloring the sequence, but it seems like is semi transparent, and I can see the colours of the background behind. How can I avoid that? Thanks

Re: Traditional animation on Paper, coloring on TVpaint

Posted: 04 Nov 2015, 17:51
by slowtiger
Check the tool you're using for colouring.
- set opacity set to 100%
- set opacity control to "none" (indicated by a C on the left)
- set its colour mode to "color"
- switch off any paper.

Most of us do the colouring on a new layer under the line art layer, so it's easier to change stuff later if necessary.

Re: Traditional animation on Paper, coloring on TVpaint

Posted: 05 Nov 2015, 12:36
by D.T. Nethery
Pablito wrote:Hello again! I need more advises about the process. I imported the animated sequence, and then the background on a different layer. I used the scanner cleaner. Then I start coloring the sequence, but it seems like is semi transparent, and I can see the colours of the background behind. How can I avoid that? Thanks
Which version of TVPaint do you have ? (Version number is under Help Menu > About TVPaint Animation)