Help! TVPaint 11 files not opening in TVPaint 10? Topic is solved

[stopyelling]

I have been doing tests and every file I save in TVP11 to TVP10 only shows one layer with one frame. I'm sure this used to work late last year where I often would go back and forth between 10 and 11.

I'm using all the same computers and what once works isn't anymore.

What am I missing?

Perhaps there was a recent update in 11 that stopped making files backwards compatible?

Help! It's festival submission time and I don't have access to TVP11 anymore

[slowtiger]

Please check in project view if there's more than one clip in the project.

[stopyelling]

My project has several clips with a handful of scenes. About 18 clips.

But

I did some tests. Like I created a new TVP11 file with one frame and one drawing. Which showed the same symptoms when opening them in TVP10.

So I don't think it matters how many clips and scenes there are.

[schwarzgrau]

I have an idea what the reason could be, could you tell me which version of 10 you're using ?

[stopyelling]

It's Version 10.0.16

To be clear. Files I saved in TVP11 during this last December open and run fine in TVP10. However, I reopened them and resaved them in TVP11 and tried in TPV10 and they suddenly display the same symptoms.

This leads me to believe that a recent update of TVP11 has been modified to not be backwards compatible with this version of TVP10.

I can probably guess why too.

[Elodie]

10.0.16 ? Time to update to 10.5.7 : it's free and your current version is out dated...

[Fabrice]

This leads me to believe that a recent update of TVP11 has been modified to not be backwards compatible with this version of TVP10.

100% wrong.
The v11.0.3 is perfectly compatible with the 10.5.7 (even with CTG layers !) and it was a real pain to develop.

>> updating your products to their last version is required.

[D.T. Nethery]

It's Version 10.0.16

To be clear. Files I saved in TVP11 during this last December open and run fine in TVP10. However, I reopened them and resaved them in TVP11 and tried in TPV10 and they suddenly display the same symptoms.

This leads me to believe that a recent update of TVP11 has been modified to not be backwards compatible with this version of TVP10.

I can probably guess why too.

Just to be clear about something: most of the time when people show up here on the forum complaining of a problem and then it turns out they are using 10.0.16 the reason for the problem is because they are using the notorious cracked version of 10.0.16 floating around on the various file sharing sites. Ok, so maybe it is possible you don't have the cracked 10.0.16 . Maybe that is the version of TVPaint 10 you installed when you first purchased the software and for whatever reason you just never remembered to check for any updates to your TVPaint 10 over the last four years ... then you should update it to 10.5.7 , which is the most up-to-date version of 10.

From my own experience I can assure you that files created with the most recent update 11.0.3 are backwards compatible with 10.5.7 and files created with 10.5.7 are forward compatible with 11.0.3. The only thing missing would be effects created in 11.0.3 which did not previously exist in 10.5.7 .

By the way, I checked a file I recently created in 11.0.3 and it opens and plays fine in TVPaint 9.5 which I still have installed on my old Macbook. There is no intention by the TVPaint developers to make version 11 not backwards compatible with previous versions of TVPaint.

[Fabrice]

The only thing missing would be effects created in 11.0.3 (such as CTG layers) that did not previously exist in 10.5.7 .

in this case, the CTG is converted as an Animation Layer.

[D.T. Nethery]

The only thing missing would be effects created in 11.0.3 (such as CTG layers) that did not previously exist in 10.5.7 .

in this case, the CTG is converted as an Animation Layer.

Yes ! Thank you for that clarification. After I posted I realized that my statement might be slightly misleading , to imply that CTG layers would make files from 11.0.3 not backwards compatible with 10.5.7 , so I edited my post to say "The only thing missing would be effects created in 11.0.3 which did not previously exist in 10.5.7 ."

Your reply came before I finished posting my edited version .

[Fabrice]

ok, no problem

[stopyelling]

I ended up getting my hands on TVP11 trial version and did some tests. Some files open in 10, others don't. It's been.. a struggle. In any case, I have 11 now so there is that.

Cheers!

[Elodie]

Using a trial version instead of updating your TVPaint 10 ? Sounds very suspicious to me...

[Animark]

Hello together,

I was afraid of updating to 11.0.3 because of expected incompatibilities with older versions. I decided not to update. The TVPaint-Team wrote (http://forum.tvpaint.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=9058" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;):

There are a LOT of changes in the 11.0.3, and one of the most important is that :

Projects saved with v11.0.3 using CTG layers will not be able to be (fully) read with previous versions of TVPaint Animation 11 !

In this release, we fixed a (very annoying) bug related to projects made in the Professional Edition that couldn't be opened in the Standard Edition.
Unfortunately, the fix broke the compatibility with previous versions of TVPaint Animation 11.

For me this reads like there is no backwards compatibility at all, as long as you work with CTG-Layers.

Re: Help! TVPaint 11 files not opening in TVPaint 10?

Post by Fabrice » Mon May 09, 2016 12:53 pm

The only thing missing would be effects created in 11.0.3 (such as CTG layers) that did not previously exist in 10.5.7 .


in this case, the CTG is converted as an Animation Layer.

After reading Fabrice post, I thought, that it is maybe not sooo bad, to update. But it is difficult to decide. Is there a list of all possible incomtabilities between 10.5.7 and 11.0.3? If there is just a break (convert) of the CTG-layers, but the projects are still usable, it could be a good idea, to update the info-posting (http://forum.tvpaint.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=9058" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;).
Or is it in the end just a incompatibilitie between 11.03 and former versions of 11, while there is no problem between 11.03 and version 10 (except the things that doesn't exist in older versions)?

[ematecki]

Projects saved with v11.0.3 using CTG layers will not be able to be (fully) read with previous versions of TVPaint Animation 11 !

As it says, with previous versions of *v11*.
That's because there was a subtle bug in previous versions of TVPaint Animation 11... :(